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geek_frappa -

我老婆係大佬 2 (My Wife is a Gangster 2)
http://global.yesasia.com/b5/PrdDept…ection-videos/

(i think part 1 is better)

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skylee -

I have just seen these two movies, which are both directed by Kim Ki-duk, and am very impressed
(in fact I think they are among the best of the festival’s films) -

Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter … and Spring (春、夏、秋、冬)
Samaritan Girl (肉海慈航)

sunyata -

I recommend:

Oasis
and
Plastic Tree

I like these, because they are not just CGI-filled nationalistic flicks or cheesy comedies, but
fairly serious critiques of Korean culture.

skylee -

Taegukgi 太極旗飄揚：生死有情

This is a good film, though I don’t particularly like it for its genre. Some of the scenes are
quite haunting …

SassybutSweet -

Have you ever seen TUBE?! This is a good Korean film, if thats what your looking for!! It has
action as well as romance!! I love it but the end of it made me want to cry!! It was so sad!! I
recommend this flim!! This is my favorite quote:” You fool life is not that complicated!!” This
film gets three thumbs up in my opinion!!!

Ian_Lee -

Is Cecilia Cheung’s Korean movie Failan good?

http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?…mp;trkid=95561

I bought the VCD and don’t have time to watch it.

skylee -

Cecilia Cheung in 白蘭 is good. But the movie is sad, old-fashioned and boring IMHO.

ThePhatGentleman -

The spirit of Jeet Kun Do is also a great film.

bhchao -

What about Winter Sonata (冬季戀歌, 겨울연가)? I heard this TV series has been real
popular in Japan.

skylee -

Winter Sonata (冬季戀歌) is GREAT (but it is a TV series not a movie). I have the DVD set, and
would recommend it to anyone who likes such kind of melodrama, pretty faces, beautiful scenes, and
nice songs/music.

But when you watch it you must only enjoy what you see and what you hear and never question
whether the story is reasonable. (i.e. 聽故(事)唔好駁故…)

During my trips to China last year, it occurred to me whenever I saw a TV (no matter if it was in
Dali old town, Lijiang old town, etc), this drama (dubbed in Mandarin) was being played. (Or maybe
it was that people turned on the TV to watch it whenever it was broadcast, and that was all the
time!!) And I saw it on TV in Japan this year. Bae Yong-jun (裴勇俊) is hot.

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channamasala -

So if you were going to be trapped in the USA for six months or so and needed to start re-learning
characters in that time (I started it but wasn’t sure how go to about doing it), and also wanted a
higher-level textbook for grammar/vocabulary/speaking in general that might take off from where
“Colloquial Chinese for Beginners” (Kan Qian) leaves off, what would you go ahead and buy? I’ll
also be looking for a decent grammar reference. I was lucky with my first textbook - I bought what
looked the most appealing and my instincts were right. I don’t want to get stuck paying too much
for a crap textbook, since it’s all I’ll have to work on my Chinese for a very long time.

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roddy -

For Characters, have a look at the Easy Way to Learn Chinese Characters book on my textbooks page
(http://www.roddyflagg.34sp.com/textbooks.html
it takes you up to several hundred characters, and is very good for giving you an eye for the
structure and components of characters, which leaves you in a very good position to continue
learning them independently.
I don’t know if you can get it outside of China, but maybe you could pick it up on the way out.

Roddy

channamasala -

I liked the description of athe Chinese character book you mentioned. Right now what I’ve got is
an excellent reference book - “Reading and Writing Chinese”. Red, black and white cover. Got it in
Hong Kong but I have seen it in the USA. But it is a reference book at heart and besides teaching
a few radicals, does nothing to really help one remember what goes where and why. Descriptions are
helpful, but I just couldn’t use it.

I noticed that you mentioned that text followed by vocabulary, grammar and exercises is “out of
date” - that book itself probably is, but the book I’ve got now has that format and I love it.
Then again, I learn the vocabulary before I read the dialogue and instead use the text as a memory
aid, and then take sentences from it that I don’t understand and either figure them out for myself
or email Julian (coworker in Guiyang whose Chinese is years - literally - ahead of mine).

I also have “Teach Yourself Chinese”, but after “Teach Yourself Sanskrit” was a miserable failure
for me (I just went out and got a tutor instead), I’m afraid to crack it. I’ll probably pick it up
when I finish with my current textbook (”Colloquial Chinese for Beginners”, which, I will repeat,
I really like…I can’t give it a better endorsement than “I taught myself Chinese from this
book”) and need something to fill up my last month in China or to look at on my way home.

A book I’ve seen in the USA that is similar to Easy Way to Learn Chinese Characters is…damn it,
I forget the name. But it’s easy. It’s got the same basic structure - it’ll teach you, say, the
character for “wood”, explain that this is also the “wood” radical and then teach you some other
characters that incorporate it (bed, forest, etc). You go through a few blogs of these and then
have some exercises. It also, if I remember, explains why the parts of the character are where
they are. That’s all I remember - it was my senior year roommate’s textbook, not mine. Although he
never did actually learn Chinese…

roddy -

The Teach Yourself Books are very very variable. I think for the more obscure languages they just
pull a text out of the library and put a new cover on it. I had a TY Catalan, and it was
undoubtably the worst textbook ever. Lesson one had you translating sentences like ‘Men and women
have two arms’ and ‘cats and dogs are animals’, and then you progressed onto things like ‘You are
completely right, Mr President’, and ‘They sat there, watching the bank’.

The sentences were so random I just went to the answers at the back and wondered where they’d
thought them up from. ‘When he was young, he was so hardy, he used to sleep outside all night,
even in winter’ was another. I got to Chapter 7 and gave up when I realised I couldn’t tell people
what my name was.

However, the Chinese one is excellent, and I can say ‘I taught myself Chinese from that book’.

Roddy

pratyeka -

Teach yourself Thai was OK, but actually all Thai books suck in comparison to this wacky one I got
a photocopy of in a secondhand bookshop .. its called “Essential Thai : A guide to the basics of
the Thai Language”, and it’s bloody brilliant. (I had previously used about 4 different books, TY
included).

channamasala -

TY Sanskrit was hilariously bad. It started with devanagiri (the alphabet) but didn’t actually
show you how one might go about making the letters on your own. The pictures of the letters were
so small that I later found out I had half of them wrong. After that it jumped straight to direct
(no transliteration) translation of impossible sentences without helping you with simple things
like, say, how to conjugate a verb or where (or what) the pronoun might be. I’m not sure where the
writers of the old book actually expected you to get that information. I wish I could remember
those sentences, but I know somewhere in the beginning I was expected to directly translate a
verse from the Ramayana (”And thus Rama slew Ravana and in so doing, won back Sita, his fair and
lovely wife, virtuous still although her long captivity upon the jungle-heavy island of Lanka had
shaken her to her feminine core, and she was silent as a lovely fawn, as a radiant young wife
should accordingly act…”or something like that).

I also still cannot tell anyone my name in Sanskrit, then again, why would I ever need to?

Roddy’s sentences remind me of New Concept English’s idea of “beginner’s English” - we were given
this textbook to teach from, and after one weekend of hell, I threw the it a window. Oddly enough,
someone stole it. I have to wonder who would ever want to steal that thing. For example, in Book
One (”First Things First”), vocabulary given included:

trousers
blouse
hosiery
umbrella
coat check
department store
sales rep
keyboard operator
cooker (as in a stove…a STOVE people. It’s a damn STOVE)
customs officer (for all those six-year olds who need to communicate in English as they leave
China, which is so easy to do)
tourist
Norwegian
Dutch
Volvo
Peugueot (I don’t even know where to begin with this one. First off, I’m a good speller and *I*
can’t even spell that. Secondly, it’s a BRAND NAME that I’ve never even seen in China, thirdly,
it’s NOT ENGLISH!!)
tending the garden

and my favorites:

whisky
beer
tobacco
cigarettes
wine

…you know, for all those times when grammar school kiddies go out for a few cold ones after a
long day at Zunyi Number Ten Primary School, and so they can easily purchase tobacco products
afterwards.

Words that are NOT taught:

we
they
it
this
that
the verb “to have”
most body parts, foods, and animals
any word related to things a child might want or ask for
any word that might describe something in simple terms (except “grey”, which was included in some
sentence about purchasing - yes, purchasing - grey hosiery.)

Some “useful phrases”:

I like beer, but I don’t like whisky.
Jane and Sue are keyboard operators.
Volvos are German but Peugueots are French.
I would like to check my umbrella, please.
I like the taste of cigars.

sjj17 -

Just reading people saying that the text followed by vocab and grammar and questions etc. is out
of date. Can somebody explain the difference between the out of date types of textbooks and the
modern textbooks. I am using Practical Chinese Reader because the style suits me and it had
excellent reviews on amazon.com, added to the fact that the only textbooks with any English in
them that you can get here are for economics and business studies. What sort of layout do the
newer style ones have and why is that considered better?

Thanks

Sarah

channamasala -

Sarah,

I personally don’t think that format is out of date. I’ve never used the textbook you’re using,
but mine is the same idea. A dialogue, a list of new words that help you to read the dialogue on
your own in pinyin, grammar notes, exercises. My complaints with it are that the exercises are too
easy and that less than halfway through, English translations of the dialogues stop coming
afterwards. They give you translations instead in characters that you are supposed to then learn
to read/write (ha!). The English is still there, at the back. I guess this is to keep you from
becoming dependent on them.

joe_doufu -

I just bought a book in the Beijing Friendship Store called “A Key to Chinese Speech and Writing”
by frenchmen named Joel Bellassen and Zhang Pengpeng. I don’t think it would be a good
introduction to Chinese, it moves much too fast through the material. However, it is a great book
for learning and re-learning characters, for somebody who is already somewhat good with Chinese.
It comes in two volumes and by the end of both you know 900 characters which make up 88% of
chinese writing.

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Ian_Lee -

In the lonelyplant forum, there are always topics about westerners dating Chinese girls.

But seldom is there any topic related to Chinese guy dating western girl.

When I was in my sophomore year studying in a university in the deep South, I had dated American
girl.

The most unforgettable experience was that during the first date, she asked me to pick her up at
her place. She hadn’t dressed yet and asked me to wait for her to change.

I still remembered that she changed clothes inside the bathroom without closing the door.

The relationship didn’t work out. (However, I came across her on campus two years later and she
was very eager to give me her new phone number even in front of her boyfriend.) But after so many
years, I still wonder if she hinted something that night?

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Quest -

Ian_Lee when was that?

39degN -

gone with the wind, right?

Ian_Lee -

Quest and 39degN:

Did you two ever date girls not from your own cultural background?

I have dated American gal, ABC gal, HK gals, Taiwan gals and Singaporean and Malaysian gals (even
though the latter four can all speak some forms of Chinese language, their cultural backgrounds
are somewhat different). I would say the approaches towards them during dating games have to be
somewhat varied.

Quest -

我比较专一。

Ian_Lee -

Quest:

After you get married, you should be faithful to your spouse. But not before the marriage.

There are so many birds in the forest, why just hold on to the bird in your palm?

39degN -

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_Lee

Quest and 39degN:

Did you two ever date girls not from your own cultural background?

i mean no offence, but,
first of all, this is private
then, no exhibitionism
lastly, i dont think it’s a appropriate topic for here.
i m sorry!

Lu -

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_Lee

In the lonelyplant forum, there are always topics about westerners dating Chinese girls.

But seldom is there any topic related to Chinese guy dating western girl.
(…)

I suppose that is because most Chinese-Western relationships are between a Western man and a
Chinese woman. You very rarely see it the other way around.

geek_frappa -

there is a discussion of these type of issues here, too.
http://www.goldsea.com/Air/Issues/Females/females.html

the page with more links to Love and Relationships…

Ian_Lee -

Lu wrote:

Quote:

I suppose that is because most Chinese-Western relationships are between a Western man and a
Chinese woman. You very rarely see it the other way around.

Why can’t it be both way? By 2020, there will be 30-40 million Chinese guys without spouses. They
should look for more sources and don’t confine their targets to only Chinese girls.

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